Does anyone thing the series will last long enough for the British to do any serious cross breeding with Temeraire? If it were up to you, which species would you cross a Celestial with for the best results? While I think it's tempting to try a cross with the strongest of the other species, Regal Copper, Longwing, or Kazilik, from a practical point of view this would seem less than ideal, given the low number, and slow reproduction of Regal Coppers, and the dangers of poor mixing of structures and losing abilities in other offensively orientated dragons. I personally like the idea of crossing with the Bright Copper, the over large air sacs of the breed may cross well with the Celestial offensive armament, and if the cross worked I'd call it a Bright Wind. Andrew 02:35, 7 November 2007 (PST)
You're right about Regal Coppers, it would be unwise to cross such rare dragons with a smaller breed. The divine wind would compensate for the weight loss, but the probability that the dragon would be able to use this ability is almost zero. Same goes with Longwings - the British might end up with a dragon who could neither spit acid nor use the divine wind. I base this on the problems the Chinese (the best breeders in the world, etc.) have with breeding Celestials.
If I were in this situation I would cross Temeraire with a heavyweight like a Chequered Nettle in hopes that the new breed would inherit the size of a ChN and the flying abilities of a Celestial. A cross with an Anglewing would be interesting as well, if everything went according to the plan the Celestial Anglewing would be the best flyier in the world.
As for the cross with Felicita, I have high hopes for the dragonet precisely because no one thinks that's a good idea :) Who knows, we might end up with a little yellow Celestial.
Natli 04:15, 7 November 2007 (PST)
I like the idea of crossing with an Anglewing, perhaps this could become the Angelwing which is pretty much what I read over and over for ages. Andrew 04:19, 7 November 2007 (PST)
Another option is that the hatchling might end up with only the Imperial genes from Temeraire as his father was an Imperial (is that right, or do I need to read book 2 again?) Do we know if Celestial/Imperial crosses always produce Celestials? Still the flying ability (even without the Divine Wind) will be a boost to the British. A middleweight with good maneuverability is still a valuable dragon as the Anglewing has shown (I read it wrong too). As for a Kazilik/Celestial cross, I don't think Temeraire would agree to that. He seemed to be developing a hearty dislike of Iskierka in the last book. --Mooir 21:03, 7 November 2007 (PST)
Even beyond any potential dislike, I don't think the British could afford to waste one of Iskierka's eggs on a risky cross with Temeraire. The French might go for a Celestial/Fire Breather cross as suggested towards the end of Ivory, but with a single, female, fire breather the British have to concentrate on crosses with the best chance of keeping the fire breathing ability without extra complications. I don't think we "know" that Celestial Imperial crosses always produce Celestials, but it seems likely, every living Celestial is such a cross as all the Celestials are too closely related to allow Celestial/Celestial breeding. Andrew 02:14, 8 November 2007 (PST)
There's not really a good place I can find to start discussions like this on the main site, or any other site I frequent on the net (If you know of somewhere please let me know) so I think I'll start filling my talk page here as this sort of thing occurs to me. Anyway... Is anyone else surprised that there seems to be no mention at all of cannons on dragon back? I know that recoil issues would be a bigger factor than on a ship, the lack of obvious flat spots, and there would be dangers in storing so much powder aboard and so on, but the advantages to having a big gun in the air are so obvious, does anyone else think it is a missed opportunity? Andrew 02:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)