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How could she end the book like that!!!!!

She ended the book, and i quote,"he knew he would be hanged by michealmas.." end quote. When is the next book coming out and where can i get it?

May/June next year. If you're lucky. Personally given the "marketing" people think it's ok to change cover styles 3 books into a series, then I'm thinking these same geniuses will think once a year on a regular schedule is a better choice than asap when it's finished. Andrew 15:10, 5 November 2007 (PST)

I mean it though. She knows how to get her book to be a best seller though! I know about 80 people who will buy the book the second it comes out! (myself included!)

Ok so she DOES know how to sell books...If she kills any main characters i'll be mad though.

Is she actually going to kill Laurence?

I doubt she'd do that (but she is ruthless at knocking off crew members). I think Temeraire, Lilly and Maximus will rebel to prevent Laurence being killed (remember that pact they made way back in book one). I've already preordered it from amazon but the release date is now in July. --Mooir 19:50, 15 April 2008 (PDT)

I'm thinking the pact will have a big impact on the next book. Oh, and it looks like August for the UK. Andrew 03:22, 23 April 2008 (PDT)

the pact wasn't even mentioned in Victory of Eagles...i started on the second book by accident though so maybe i just missed any mention of it

the ending to this book wasn't so hot either

it ended with laurence and temeraire being shipped to another country...she's apparently a big fan of cliffhangers

Pact and ending

I disagree, there were several references to the pact made in the first book throughout VoE. None of them were direct, such as the dragons getting together and talking about it, but the essential reason for Temeraire being sent to Australia at the end was because of the pact and the attitudes he had and was spreading amongst British dragons that the pact represented.

As to it being a cliff hanger ending. I've not certain about that. Most of the plot lines are wrapped up, yes the final end of the Napoleonic wars is currently in doubt, but there's no reason to think that Temeraire and Laurence can have an impact on that from Australia. This could in all fairness be the end of the story. Unless anyone's seen confirmation that there will be another book? Andrew 06:12, 5 August 2008 (PDT)

In one of the interviews NN stated that she has material for 6 books so the next one might be the last.Natli 06:57, 5 August 2008 (PDT)


I agree that Temeraire's attitude had alot to do with them getting shipped to Australia, but the big part was the ideas he got from China, like dragons getting jobs and equality. They wanted Temeraire gone so that he couldn't spread those ideas around any more than he had. The pact they probably knew nothing about, so that couldn't have affected their decision much.

The ending did wrap things up pretty well, but leaving us off with Laurence and Temeraire being shipped to Australia is a cliffhanger.

If the war no longer concerns them then there probably wont be another book. All the books have been centered around the war. [User:Starsteel|Starsteel]]

I think we have very different definitions of what "cliffhanger" means. To me, the ending of VoE is in no way a cliffhanger. There is no issue currently laying unresolved apart for the final outcome of the Napoleonic wars. For a book to have a cliffhanger, there needs to some sort of immediate cliff for the characters to be hanging off. Some current action that the consequences of which are clearly unresolved. Sending them off to Australia doesn't seem to qualify as they're going to spend a year getting there, during which time nothing can happen, and their involvement with Europe and the war has been effectively ended by the British Government.

Now I agree there's no reason why Laurence, Granby, Temeraire and Iskeirka couldn't suddenly be recalled, or encounter something on the way down under that leaves them having a large roll still to play in the out come of the war, but that would be a new circumstance introduced in the next book. How will the get involved again, doesn't count as a cliffhanger for me as the answer could very well be "they wont." Andrew